photo of puppy dog at Camp Aunt
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Meet Camille Simone. This blog is a running travelogue of her parents Feb-March2009 India trip to bring her home.
photo of puppy dog at Camp Aunt
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Armed with the documents from my previous blog and the Court ready paper form the social worker (I had to supply the exhibits that were mentioned like a copy of her Visa, and India court papers) I took a half day off to head over to the Edmund D Edelman Children's Court in LA
a little info about the place
http://www.laalmanac.com/crime/cr57.htm
Central Juvenile District
Edmund D. Edelman Children's Court
201 Centre Plaza Dr.
Monterey Park, CA 91754
More than 70,000 children each year in Los Angeles County are placed in the care of the Los Angeles County Department of Children's Services due to abuse, neglect, abandonment and exploitation. About 50,000 of these children require the protection of the Juvenile Dependency Court.
Prior to July 1992, dependency hearings were held at the Criminal Courts Building in downtown Los Angeles and in temporary trailers behind Van Nuys Superior Court. The proceedings and formal courtroom environments were seen by many as intimidating and stressful for already victimized children.
Los Angeles County became the first in the nation to establish a dependency courthouse designed specifically as a "child-sensitive" facility. The courtrooms are smaller and less intimidating to children than traditional courtrooms. Special areas are designed for children to play in, engage in interesting activities or just catch a nap. These features are meant to reduce as much as possible the stress and trauma associated with the child’s experience in the legal system.
It is a bit tricky to get there so here is a map if you happen to be in LA
more info here http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/Locations/ui/location.aspx?loc=CCJ&
The folks there are quite accommodating. I took my papers in and said I think I have filled them out correctly but I have questions on two of them. Once I got that cleared it was easy sailing. They asked where my VS44 was. I told them that i was not given a VS44 but if they had one I would go fill it out in the waiting are and come back. As I had the package that they gave me 6 months ago they took a look at at and noted that yep, it was missing from the packet. I took a look for it on line and found a couple of counties/cities have it on their web site. Mendocino had the shortest link...http://www.mendocino.courts.ca.gov/forms/VS-44.pdf.
You need to supply multiple copies of some of the forms. They stamp and gave back two Adopt-200 one for my records and one for the adoption agency. and Adopt-230. I made 2 more copies of Adopt-200 and sent one to the mother agency in another state and one to the agency here in California.
Now it is another waiting game for my self-addressed and stamped envelope to come back to me telling me when to show up at court.
HomeFront
I built a wall-to-wall shelf for the kids stuffed animals. It runs, as you can imagine, the length of the wall and it about 1 foot below the ceiling. Too many stuffed animals. Here is a partial accounting of the ones whose names I can remember and each of their afflictions.
Brown Baby this was Kermit's first big doll and is much loved. so much that she will soon be a single amputee
Baboo - a white terrier that we got when Kermit was about 1 1/2 on a trip to a bread baking convention in Prince Albert a small town outside of Toronto Canada
Sarah Baby
My Little girl
Moolawn
Tatia our Russian immigrant
Talia - she is deaf you know, one hand form the letter "a" while the other says I love you
Thurston - a stuffy bear properly dressed to the nines
Christmas Bear 2005
China - and yes she is Chinese
Gina
Kewpie Doll - an original Kewpie doll for Camille aka toilet bowl baby no details needed
Mee Baby - times 3 one for each small pink things with tails from our friend in the OKC
Rose Dawson - I think this one was a build a bear
Butterfly Heart Bear
Cozette - a flying dragon that used to play You are my sunshine
Smiley - a critter from Hellboy The girls love him and RN has had to put some limits on his movements. Since we use real words in our house his affliction is that he is agoraphobic. Now one day when the youngest wanted Smiley I made the mistake of taking him out of our room. Kermit just about had a meltdown. "Daddy you have to put him back, take him back, don't let Two have him he is getting scared. At this point tears are streaming down and Two is starting to well to give smiley Me. Dad he is agoraphobic and he needs to go back now hurry." Oh my gosh what is my daughter talking about. When she said agoraphobic I was translating to arachnophobic. So I am looking for a spider somewhere and then she says again "he is agoraphobic daddy he can't leave the room he gets scared when he leaves the room." Duh, neurons connect and I know understand what she is saying. "Sorry Let me put him back." Wow and Smiley is one of the not so nice critters in the movie and in our home he is just a love bug that is confined to a single room.
Two on the other-hand runs around with her stuffed Tyrannosaurus Rex – Jane, saying “I'm a Shea Butter Junkie.”
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I am not quite sure what to do with this one. We have been following the trials and tribulations of another adopting family and it appears as though we are getting different information on the intercountry adoption. As a recap, India does not recognize the word adoption. What you get when you adopt from India is a court order that gives you legal custody of the child. When you are in your home country you complete the adoption. This involves going to the courts and removing the adoption agency from their hold on your child (consent and joinder) and making you the child's birth parents. In California we will get a California Birth certificate. When I went to the county court house for the papers I was given a pamphlet of information and was told fill it out and return. See the entry here First Post Placement Home study.
Rajal (Raj Blog ) has been experiencing something a bit different and has been on a roller coaster ride. I'll let Raj do the talking...
CALIFORNIA REQUIREMENT
IF YOUR ADOPTION WAS FINALIZED IN ANOTHER COUNTRY THEN YOU NEED TO READOPT IN CALIFORNIA THEN YOU NEED 1 POST PLACEMENT REPORT.
IF YOUR RECEIVED GUARDIANSHIP IN ANOTHER COUNTRY AND YOU NEED TO FINALIZE YOUR ADOPTION IN CALIFORNIA THEN YOU NEED 4 POST PLACEMENT REPORTS DURING A SIX MONTH PERIOD.
He supported what he was told with this web link to a pdf
http://www.dss.cahwnet.gov/getinfo/pdf/adman8.pdf or hit this LINK
ADOPTIONS PROGRAM REGULATIONS
Regulations PROCEDURES FOR INTERCOUNTRY ADOPTIONS
TABLE OF CONTENTS
TITLE 22, DIVISION 2
CHAPTER 3. ADOPTION PROGRAM REGULATIONS
SUBCHAPTER 6. PROCEDURES FOR INTERCOUNTRY ADOPTIONS
Article 1. General Administrative Requirements for Intercountry Adoptions
35307 HOME INTERVIEW DURING SUPERVISORY PERIOD
(a) During the supervisory period the agency shall conduct at least one interview in the home of the prospective adoptive parent with the prospective adoptive parent and the child to be adopted.
NOTE: Authority cited: Sections 10553 and 10554, Welfare and Institutions Code; Section 1530, Health and Safety Code; and Sections 8621 and 8901, Family Code. Reference: Section 8900, Family Code.
35309 ADDITIONAL INTERVIEWS DURING SUPERVISORY PERIOD
(a) The agency shall conduct at least three additional interviews with the prospective adoptive parent unless the duration of the supervisory period has been reduced to less than six months as provided for in Section 35303.
NOTE: Authority cited: Sections 10553 and 10554, Welfare and Institutions Code; Section 1530, Health and Safety Code; and Sections 8621 and 8901, Family Code. Reference: Section 8900, Family Code.
Section 3503 are exceptions which are for those that have completed a California adoption within the past 5 years or are in the military service of the United States or is employed by the American Red Cross
Now that was back in 1998
I think it has been modified by an amendment in 2008...
http://www.cdss.ca.gov/lettersnotices/entres/getinfo/acin08/I-12_08.pdf or hit this LINK
And there you have it - left hand not talking to the right hand. A couple of weeks ago we had our 2nd post placement study. When our social worker gives me the paperwork to take to the court I will head out. I am hopping for an October time-frame but I have no idea. I have found out you can't push this train you gotta ride it.
And what is up with Miss Camille? Well she is getting assimilated into the Borg collective. her older sister goes to pre-school twice a week. lately she has been crying when her sister stays and she has to go. We might try her at school for an hour or two and see how she does. Her assimilation of English is coming along and unfortunately her sing-song lilt is blending away. When she says something that no-one can interpret she seems to revert to babbble and the at the end give an "ohh kayyy?" to make sure we understood what she was saying. Her younger sister sometimes takes advantage of her by snatching a toy from her but she is learning top ask for it back and if that doesn't work to seek a higher authority. All three have become adept at blaming each other for actions that they took. Camille blames Kermit, Kermit Blames, Bee and Bee blames Camille. God help me when we get a dog!
The wife is a signer for the deaf at our church. The other day we, Camille and Two, were in the overflow room. They have a large flat screen monitor in the front of the room. About 15 minutes into service Camille started to whimper and curl her lip in readiness to wail. I asked her what the problem was and she said she couldn't see her sister Kermit. I told her she was sitting with mommy as last week she sat with mommy. She accepted it for a short time but was not convinced. I then asked why she wasn't upset that mommy wasn't with us. She pointed to the screen and said mommy there Kermit not there.
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There is not much that we can do until we get the 2nd home study and get a recommendation from the social worker in writing to take to the courts. I am not sure where this rule comes from that we have to have 2 post placement home studies done before we go the the courts to adopt. As far as I can tell India does not place this restriction. Our adoption agency says we can adopt after the first post placement study. The hired social worker says we can adopt after the 2nd pps. Someone ain't telling the truth or someone don't know the facts. In either case I have my hands tied until I get that recommendation to take to the courts. As they say just roll with the machine. Frustrating as all get up in the meantime.
Miss Camille has taken her first side trip out of the state to the mid-west. I was a bit apprehensive about shoving her onto a couple of planes to get to the plain states. She handled the adventure quite nicely. She may be a bit de-sentised as we are near a small muni-airport and we get a couple of planes a day running the pattern near the house. Single engines low and high wing and a bi-plane trainer painted a nice blue and gold.
Backing up from when she arrived in March she has made great strides. Th first 6 weeks were extremely rough for everyone. She had crying jags at the top of her lungs that lasted almost an hour. When that wasn't doing it for her she gave us poopy pants. Just lovely. I think one week I was bucket washing about 8 pairs of panties.
Here is what her younger sister thinks of that – ooooh schtinky.
Unfortunately for her we are like the Borg. Resistance is Futile, You will be assimilated.
I got confirmation of the assimilation when last week we took her older sister Kermit to pre school. When she got home she went to the middle of the living room floor and started one of her crying jags that we had not had in over a month and a half. When questioned about it she said she misses her older sister and wants her back!
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The Engineer in me said “Let's get it on” I was on a roll to get the adoption finalized. Jumping onto the net for Los Angeles County courts and came up with a forum posting from 2007
http://forums.adoption.com/russia-adoption/304400-re-adoption-california.html
Readoption in CA is done via the Family/ Juvenile Court. I would recommend a trip to your local county court, within the Juvenile dept. They have a packet that they hand out that has all of the forms, etc that need to be completed. In general, it worked this way for us:
1. Complete and hand-file all forms with the court
2. Court assigns a case number
3. Provide case number to your homestudy agency
4. HS agency completes report (may require visit to your home) and submits that to the court along with a Consent and Joinder
5. When you know that has been submitted, call the court to ask for a court date
6. Court date is easy - appear before a judge, sign stuff, get a picture, and you're done
7. Within about 6 months, you'll receive the CA birth cert
CA does not do foreign recognition like some other states do. We have readoption processes available and in-place, so that is what you need to do.
Here is the link to all of the CA adoption forms:
http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/forms.cgi
(you may need to pull down "adoption" on the menu)
Here is the package that is handed out at the courthouse:
http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/forms/documents/adopt050.pdf
There are 12 documents plus the one above that can be downloaded. You have 2 choices one is a straight pdf that you print out and pen & ink it. The other is a fillable pdf. Depending on the reader you use you may or may not be able to save the fillable form. I sometimes find that .if you use Adobe Reader you sometimes, depending on the form, may not be ale to save your work. I have a full version of Adobe 5.0 and sometimes that works. For the files that are stubborn I have been using Foxit Reader Of the forms on the site I will need to fill out form 020, 200, 210, 215 and 230. It will take about all of 1 to 2 hours to do them and that is just what I did. Then I called the adoption agency and said hey get my that home study... Screeeeetch. Sorry, you can't have the first Post Placement Home Study until Camillle has been home for 3 months (India requires quarterly updates). Well that is a bummer.
A friend of ours has worked her whole life with lawyers and pointed us to
http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/courtrules/chapter13.htm#13.5c
Don't go there! it is a black hole reserved for lawyers and if you are going to adopt without lawyers then you will not need this web site.
In fact the county of LA has really made it easy. After searching the Superior Court web site I decided I better figure out which one those web sites were really right. First of all we have a courthouse right next to LAX and it is quite convenient. The other one is off the 710 and the 10 freeways aka Monterey Park. Not sure about other cities as the county has numerous courthouses for adoption. Note that not all LA county courts do adoptions. Since I was still on leave I took a quick jaunt up to the court to get an info packet. Parking is $4 a hit. Yikes didn't like that. I had Aiden d and she wanted to walk so we did. It was a nice day for a walk with my 1 ½ year old. This courthouse is specialized, they only deal in Juvenile cases. It is called the Edmund D. Edelman Children's Court. Not like any courthouse I have ever seen. Children are actually welcomed and it is nowhere near as stuffy as the LAX courthouse. So Nah! when the time comes we will file there. And yes they gave me a packet of material to fill out and except for one form it is exactly what was on the first web site. Found out the LAX courthouse does not do adoptions.
Some extra info that was not on the web site:
Prepare original -200 and make 4 copies
Attach complete set of copies of foreign country adoption docs along with notarized translation (not a problem here as the India courts use Kings English)
Attach cert for grounds for assignment to district to the adoption request Form-020 (not on the web site of forms but you can get it here www.lasuperiorcourt.org/forms/pdf/FAM020.pdf )
Memorandum for Setting for Hearing – original and 1 copy (not available anywhere from what I can see)
Original and 2 copies of form 210
Original and 3 copies of form 215
Original and 1 copy of form 230
Filing cost - $20
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