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Camille's Day In Court

Just to reiterate California makes it very easy for you to do your own court appearance. You do not need a lawyer. Go to www.courtinfo.ca.gov from there go to the forms and list them all alphabetically http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/forms/allforms.htm grab the ones you need for the adoption. The ones you need are the -50 for an overview, 020, 200, 210, 215, 230 and VS-44. 020 is unique to LA county and VS-44 is not found at the web site but I provided a link to it in an earlier post. You will need that final recommendation from your home study social worker. It should come in a legal-ese format and will be notarized. Read it carefully as what I got did not have the “exhibits”. Luckily I had pdf of what was exhibited exhibit A was the last homestudy, Exhibit B was the Visa, and C was the court papers from India (original) with India equivalent of a notary. Of course your paperwork and exhibits will vary.

If you get stuck drop me a line lostdiver61 at yahoo dot com

For our soiree we had Camille's Aunt from Camp Aunt and two of her cousins, A friend from our church and a friend from our First Year of Marriage group (now going on 10 years) and one of her sons in tow. We got to the designated courthouse with ample time to spare and based on our court papers were to report to division 421. now you think division 421 would be on the 4th floor. Nope somehow we did not see the signs but there are a lot of 400 series division in this court house and division 421 is on the 5th floor. No worries it is just another Vador trip. have a seat and wait for the bailiff to show up. While we were waiting we got to see a youth get hooked up. it went down quietly but I think I heard one of the cousins humming “bad boys, bad boys, what ya going do when they come for you”. We were called in on time. Hum we are effectively suing our adoption agency for sole custody of our child and the defendant is not there – WOOHOO SLAM DUNK. Introductions were made and then the wife (Rn or She Who Must Be Obeyed) & I were sworn. Not the normal swearing but a nicer version of being truthful in our testimony. The judge looked over the papers in front of him and as best I can tell it seemed as though it was the first time he had seen them. So he asked a few questions about the info. The reporter stopped recording when there were questions and answers that were not germane to the case she stopped. Nice and professional like but still quite family oriented. 30 minutes later we were out the door.

To sum it up it could have been done over the phone. You get some of your forms back. You will want to keep form 215. My adoption agency was satisfied to close their books with a good pdf of the form. You may need to copy front and back as one page had the notary stamp from the court. The 215 form is your legal document that takes your child from the adoption agency and assigns you as the legal parent. Until the VS-44 completes, this is your child's birth certificate.

That about ends the blog of what to do after you get your child home in California. There are a few loose ends. The jury is out on getting the Certificate of Citizenship (N-600 form). It is used to prove you are a citizen when you have been born outside the US. It may be needed if you apply for certain scholarships, work in a gov job. As of Jan 2010 the cost if a tad of 5 Ben Franklin's but not by much. After we get the birth certificate we will most likely get a passport so that we can go visit our friend Jim Wills at http://www.marygbread.com/

je

PS
1. Once again blogger and I are at odds over the font - I am unable to publish today in Comic San MS and I am perturbed.
2. Happy Birthday Punk

Merry Christmas

Early this morning Camille and her sisters took a road up up north to visit their grandparents. This is her first big car trip as earlier in the year she took an in-country plane trip. Grandma and Grandpa have yet to physically hold and hug their newest grand-daughter. At the moment she and her sisters are taking a visit to Camp Aunt. They wish everyone a Merry and Healthy Christmas.

photo of puppy dog at Camp Aunt

je

Camille Gets A Subpoena

Just got some news in the mail. 15 Jan 2010 Ms Camille gets her day in court.

wooohooooo!!!!

Walking to Court

With some daring do I have finally secured the required papers from the social worker to get out daughter adopted. Yes Rajal was right there are one (1) interview that is done in the home and 3 additional interviews. Four (4) interviews six (6) months or one every two (2) months. Now the kicker here is what constitutes an interview? Twenty some odd years ago when I was a prospective employee candidate with the Hewlett Packard Company their interview process was 100% phone. You didn't even get to set a foot in the door unless you get get past their phone exam/interview. So how do you help the process along. Keep in contact with your social worker. For us we called ours once a month. For our last interview we met at a half way point. Unfortunately that was 1/2 way in terms of miles not by hours. We were almost an hour and a half late due to traffic. Let's hear it for cell phones.

Armed with the documents from my previous blog and the Court ready paper form the social worker (I had to supply the exhibits that were mentioned like a copy of her Visa, and India court papers) I took a half day off to head over to the Edmund D Edelman Children's Court in LA

a little info about the place

http://www.laalmanac.com/crime/cr57.htm

Central Juvenile District

Edmund D. Edelman Children's Court

201 Centre Plaza Dr.

Monterey Park, CA 91754

More than 70,000 children each year in Los Angeles County are placed in the care of the Los Angeles County Department of Children's Services due to abuse, neglect, abandonment and exploitation. About 50,000 of these children require the protection of the Juvenile Dependency Court.

Prior to July 1992, dependency hearings were held at the Criminal Courts Building in downtown Los Angeles and in temporary trailers behind Van Nuys Superior Court. The proceedings and formal courtroom environments were seen by many as intimidating and stressful for already victimized children.

Los Angeles County became the first in the nation to establish a dependency courthouse designed specifically as a "child-sensitive" facility. The courtrooms are smaller and less intimidating to children than traditional courtrooms. Special areas are designed for children to play in, engage in interesting activities or just catch a nap. These features are meant to reduce as much as possible the stress and trauma associated with the child’s experience in the legal system.

It is a bit tricky to get there so here is a map if you happen to be in LA

more info here http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/Locations/ui/location.aspx?loc=CCJ&

The folks there are quite accommodating. I took my papers in and said I think I have filled them out correctly but I have questions on two of them. Once I got that cleared it was easy sailing. They asked where my VS44 was. I told them that i was not given a VS44 but if they had one I would go fill it out in the waiting are and come back. As I had the package that they gave me 6 months ago they took a look at at and noted that yep, it was missing from the packet. I took a look for it on line and found a couple of counties/cities have it on their web site. Mendocino had the shortest link...http://www.mendocino.courts.ca.gov/forms/VS-44.pdf.

You need to supply multiple copies of some of the forms. They stamp and gave back two Adopt-200 one for my records and one for the adoption agency. and Adopt-230. I made 2 more copies of Adopt-200 and sent one to the mother agency in another state and one to the agency here in California.

Now it is another waiting game for my self-addressed and stamped envelope to come back to me telling me when to show up at court.

HomeFront

I built a wall-to-wall shelf for the kids stuffed animals. It runs, as you can imagine, the length of the wall and it about 1 foot below the ceiling. Too many stuffed animals. Here is a partial accounting of the ones whose names I can remember and each of their afflictions.

Brown Baby this was Kermit's first big doll and is much loved. so much that she will soon be a single amputee

Baboo - a white terrier that we got when Kermit was about 1 1/2 on a trip to a bread baking convention in Prince Albert a small town outside of Toronto Canada

Sarah Baby

My Little girl

Moolawn

Tatia our Russian immigrant

Talia - she is deaf you know, one hand form the letter "a" while the other says I love you

Thurston - a stuffy bear properly dressed to the nines

Christmas Bear 2005

China - and yes she is Chinese

Gina

Kewpie Doll - an original Kewpie doll for Camille aka toilet bowl baby no details needed

Mee Baby - times 3 one for each small pink things with tails from our friend in the OKC

Rose Dawson - I think this one was a build a bear

Butterfly Heart Bear

Cozette - a flying dragon that used to play You are my sunshine

Smiley - a critter from Hellboy The girls love him and RN has had to put some limits on his movements. Since we use real words in our house his affliction is that he is agoraphobic. Now one day when the youngest wanted Smiley I made the mistake of taking him out of our room. Kermit just about had a meltdown. "Daddy you have to put him back, take him back, don't let Two have him he is getting scared. At this point tears are streaming down and Two is starting to well to give smiley Me. Dad he is agoraphobic and he needs to go back now hurry." Oh my gosh what is my daughter talking about. When she said agoraphobic I was translating to arachnophobic. So I am looking for a spider somewhere and then she says again "he is agoraphobic daddy he can't leave the room he gets scared when he leaves the room." Duh, neurons connect and I know understand what she is saying. "Sorry Let me put him back." Wow and Smiley is one of the not so nice critters in the movie and in our home he is just a love bug that is confined to a single room.

Two on the other-hand runs around with her stuffed Tyrannosaurus Rex – Jane, saying “I'm a Shea Butter Junkie.”

je

Another Post Placement

I am not quite sure what to do with this one. We have been following the trials and tribulations of another adopting family and it appears as though we are getting different information on the intercountry adoption. As a recap, India does not recognize the word adoption. What you get when you adopt from India is a court order that gives you legal custody of the child. When you are in your home country you complete the adoption. This involves going to the courts and removing the adoption agency from their hold on your child (consent and joinder) and making you the child's birth parents. In California we will get a California Birth certificate. When I went to the county court house for the papers I was given a pamphlet of information and was told fill it out and return. See the entry here First Post Placement Home study.

Rajal (Raj Blog ) has been experiencing something a bit different and has been on a roller coaster ride. I'll let Raj do the talking...

CALIFORNIA REQUIREMENT

IF YOUR ADOPTION WAS FINALIZED IN ANOTHER COUNTRY THEN YOU NEED TO READOPT IN CALIFORNIA THEN YOU NEED 1 POST PLACEMENT REPORT.

IF YOUR RECEIVED GUARDIANSHIP IN ANOTHER COUNTRY AND YOU NEED TO FINALIZE YOUR ADOPTION IN CALIFORNIA THEN YOU NEED 4 POST PLACEMENT REPORTS DURING A SIX MONTH PERIOD.

He supported what he was told with this web link to a pdf

http://www.dss.cahwnet.gov/getinfo/pdf/adman8.pdf or hit this LINK

ADOPTIONS PROGRAM REGULATIONS

Regulations PROCEDURES FOR INTERCOUNTRY ADOPTIONS

TABLE OF CONTENTS

TITLE 22, DIVISION 2

CHAPTER 3. ADOPTION PROGRAM REGULATIONS

SUBCHAPTER 6. PROCEDURES FOR INTERCOUNTRY ADOPTIONS

Article 1. General Administrative Requirements for Intercountry Adoptions

35307 HOME INTERVIEW DURING SUPERVISORY PERIOD

(a) During the supervisory period the agency shall conduct at least one interview in the home of the prospective adoptive parent with the prospective adoptive parent and the child to be adopted.

NOTE: Authority cited: Sections 10553 and 10554, Welfare and Institutions Code; Section 1530, Health and Safety Code; and Sections 8621 and 8901, Family Code. Reference: Section 8900, Family Code.

35309 ADDITIONAL INTERVIEWS DURING SUPERVISORY PERIOD

(a) The agency shall conduct at least three additional interviews with the prospective adoptive parent unless the duration of the supervisory period has been reduced to less than six months as provided for in Section 35303.

NOTE: Authority cited: Sections 10553 and 10554, Welfare and Institutions Code; Section 1530, Health and Safety Code; and Sections 8621 and 8901, Family Code. Reference: Section 8900, Family Code.

Section 3503 are exceptions which are for those that have completed a California adoption within the past 5 years or are in the military service of the United States or is employed by the American Red Cross

Now that was back in 1998

I think it has been modified by an amendment in 2008...

http://www.cdss.ca.gov/lettersnotices/entres/getinfo/acin08/I-12_08.pdf or hit this LINK

And there you have it - left hand not talking to the right hand. A couple of weeks ago we had our 2nd post placement study. When our social worker gives me the paperwork to take to the court I will head out. I am hopping for an October time-frame but I have no idea. I have found out you can't push this train you gotta ride it.

And what is up with Miss Camille? Well she is getting assimilated into the Borg collective. her older sister goes to pre-school twice a week. lately she has been crying when her sister stays and she has to go. We might try her at school for an hour or two and see how she does. Her assimilation of English is coming along and unfortunately her sing-song lilt is blending away. When she says something that no-one can interpret she seems to revert to babbble and the at the end give an "ohh kayyy?" to make sure we understood what she was saying. Her younger sister sometimes takes advantage of her by snatching a toy from her but she is learning top ask for it back and if that doesn't work to seek a higher authority. All three have become adept at blaming each other for actions that they took. Camille blames Kermit, Kermit Blames, Bee and Bee blames Camille. God help me when we get a dog!

The wife is a signer for the deaf at our church. The other day we, Camille and Two, were in the overflow room. They have a large flat screen monitor in the front of the room. About 15 minutes into service Camille started to whimper and curl her lip in readiness to wail. I asked her what the problem was and she said she couldn't see her sister Kermit. I told her she was sitting with mommy as last week she sat with mommy. She accepted it for a short time but was not convinced. I then asked why she wasn't upset that mommy wasn't with us. She pointed to the screen and said mommy there Kermit not there.

je

Sibling Bonding

There is not much that we can do until we get the 2^nd home study and get a recommendation from the social worker in writing to take to the courts. I am not sure where this rule comes from that we have to have 2 post placement home studies done before we go the the courts to adopt. As far as I can tell India does not place this restriction. Our adoption agency says we can adopt after the first post placement study. The hired social worker says we can adopt after the 2^nd pps. Someone ain't telling the truth or someone don't know the facts. In either case I have my hands tied until I get that recommendation to take to the courts. As they say just roll with the machine. Frustrating as all get up in the meantime.

Miss Camille has taken her first side trip out of the state to the mid-west. I was a bit apprehensive about shoving her onto a couple of planes to get to the plain states. She handled the adventure quite nicely. She may be a bit de-sentised as we are near a small muni-airport and we get a couple of planes a day running the pattern near the house. Single engines low and high wing and a bi-plane trainer painted a nice blue and gold.

Backing up from when she arrived in March she has made great strides. Th first 6 weeks were extremely rough for everyone. She had crying jags at the top of her lungs that lasted almost an hour. When that wasn't doing it for her she gave us poopy pants. Just lovely. I think one week I was bucket washing about 8 pairs of panties.

Here is what her younger sister thinks of that – ooooh schtinky.

Unfortunately for her we are like the Borg. Resistance is Futile, You will be assimilated.

I got confirmation of the assimilation when last week we took her older sister Kermit to pre school. When she got home she went to the middle of the living room floor and started one of her crying jags that we had not had in over a month and a half. When questioned about it she said she misses her older sister and wants her back!

je